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How to ID a second generation Colt
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How to ID a 2nd Generation Colt Percussion Revolver
Fingers McGee
In 1970, Colt Industries began development of a reissue of the 1851 Navy percussion revolver. The initial blueprint was numbered C1121 and was the first of some 52 separate models that comprise the Second Generation of Percussion Colt’s. Of those models were the 16 “C” series 1851 Navy and 3rd Model Dragoon revolvers, and the 36 “F” series revolvers that encompassed of all of Colt’s percussion revolvers from the 1847 Walker to the 1862 Pocket models. Quantities of 2nd Gens produced ranged from 4 for an F series 1862 Pocket Police 150th Anniversary Engraved Sampler with one piece ivory grip, to 19,775 for the C series 1851 Navy. All 2nd Gens have the same markings as, and are marked in the same locations as the original 1st Generation Colt’s. Serial numbers are found on the barrel, frame, cylinder, back strap, trigger guard, cylinder pin, and wedge. One of two barrel addresses will be present. Either “-- Address Col. Saml Colt New-York U.S. America—“ or “Address Saml Colt New-York City” “Colts/Patent” will be stamped on the left side of the frame on all models except the Walker. The “C” series were made between 1971 and 1978 and the “F” series between 1979 and 1982. Model numbers and descriptions of the 2nd Generation series are:
MODEL Description QTY
C1121 1851 Navy, B/CCH/Silver square back trigger guard 19,776
C1121 BSE 1851 Navy, B/CCH/Si, B engraved, gold banded two gun set 50
C1121 CDC 1851 Navy, B/CCH/NI BS/Sq TG, Engraved, cased set 174
C1122 1851 Navy, B/CCH/Brass BS/TG 500
C1122 S2B 1851 Navy, B/CCH/Br, B engraved, gold banded 50
C1131 1851 Navy, B/CCH/silver rounded trigger guard 100
C1132 1851 Navy, B/CCH/brass rounded trigger guard 100
C9001 1851 Navy, Robert E Lee Commemorative cased set 4750
C9002 1851 Navy, Ulysses S. Grant Commemorative cased set 4750
C9003 1851 Navy, Lee/Grant matched pair cased set 250
C1770 3rd Model Dragoon, B/CCH/Br 3924
C1770 BCE 3rd Model Dragoon, B/CCH/Si, Engraved w/inlaid coin in grip 1776
C1770 CES 3rd Model Dragoon, B/CCH/Br B engraved w/one piece ivory 25
Same as above but with bright nickel finish 25
C1770 MN 3rd Model Dragoon, B /CCH/br Bright mirror high polish blue 75
Same as above with one piece ivory grip 5
Same as above with bright nickel finish and one piece ivory grip 20
C1770 S2B 3rd Model Dragoon, B/CCH/Br, B engraved, gold banded 50
C1770 CSE 3rd Model Dragoon, Statehood Custom Edition, High polish
B/CCH/Gold plated BS/TG, two piece ivory grip 52
F1100 1851 Navy, B/CCH/Si 3551
F1101 1851 Navy, B/CCH/Si, with blank cylinder 300
F1110 1851 Navy, stainless steel 490
MODEL DESCRIPTION QUANTITY
F1200 1860 Army, B/CCH/Br trigger guard, blued backstrap 6290
F1200 MN 1860 Army, Full bright nickel w/one piece ivory grip 12
F1200 ICE 1860 Army, Interstate Special Edition, Cased set containing
One antique gold plated 1860 and one antique silver plated
1860 with accessories 20
F1200CES 1860 Army, B/CCH/Br B engraved w/one piece ivory 10
Same as above but with bright nickel finish 10
F1200 LNK 1860 Army, full electroless nickel finish 50
F1200 LNKS 1860 Army, electroless nickel finish with case, accessories,
and shoulder stock 20
F1200 EBO 1860 Army, Butterfield Despatch special edition, B/CCH/Br,
cased with spare cylinder 500
F1202 CTF 1860 Army, B/CCH/br, Limited edition cased w/accessories 500
F1203 1860 Army, B/CCH/br, w/flutd cylinder 2670
F1203 XFC 1860 Army, Full nickel w/ivory or full nickel w/ebony grip;
or full nickel with ivory and C engraving 10
F1210 1860 Army, Stainless Steel 1596
F9005 1860 Army, US Cavalry Commemorative, pair of revolvers
in cased set with shoulder stock 2945
F9005 – S Same as Cavalry Commemorative but withC suffix SN 40
F9005 SPL Same as Cavalry Commemorative but is gold inlaid 17
Same as above but has B abd C level engraving 23
F1300 1861 Navy, B/CCH/Si 3166
F1310 1861 Navy, Stainless Steel 8
F1400 1862 Pocket Navy, B/CCH/Si 5281
F1400 MN 1862 Pocket Navy, Full bright nickel w/one piece ivory grip 25
F1400 CES 1862 Pocket Navy, B/CCH/br, B engraved, one piece ivory grip 10
Same as above but full bright nickel 10
F1401 1862 Pocket Navy, B/CCH/Si, limited ed cased set w/accessories 500
F1500 1862 Pocket Police, B/CCH/Si, 3756
F1500 MN 1862 Pocket Police, Full bright nickel w/one piece ivory grip 25
F1500 CES 1862 Pocket Police, B/CCH/br, B engraved, one piece ivory grip 4
Same as above but full bright nickel 16
F1501 1862 Pocket Police, B/CCH/Si, limited ed cased set w/accessories 500
F1600 1847 Walker, B/CCH/Br 2921
Same as above but with five digit SN 245
F9006 1847 Walker, B/CCH/Br, Cased Heritage Commemorative 1863
F1700 1st Model Dragoon, B/CCH/Br 3778
F1700 YVE 1st Model Dragoon, B/CCH/Br, Yorktown Victory Cased set 100
F1720 2nd Model Dragoon, B/CCH/Br 2551
F1740 3rd Model Dragoon, B/CCH/Br 2731
F1740 EGA 3rd Model Dragoon, B/CCH/Br, gold inlaid in French fit case 206
Freak Dragoon, barrel and cylinder in the white, no inlays 94
MODEL DESCRIPTION QUANTITY
F1760 1848 Baby Dragoon, B/CCH/Br 1352
F1761 1848 Baby Dragoon, B/CCH/Br, Limited edition cased set 500
In addition to the models finished, marketed and sold by Colt’s, there were special editions of engraved, cased, and limited editions produced using unfinished 2nd Generation revolvers. These editions were from Klay Associates, Inc; The American Historical Foundation; and The Heritage Guild.
Here are the markings you will not find stamped on a 2nd Generation Colt Percussion Revolver:
“For Blackpowder only”
Italian (or any other countries) Proof Marks
Manufacturers Date Code
“Navy Arms”, “Cimarron”, “Uberti” or any other importer, or maker’s mark
“Sam Colt” signature on the backstrap – Those are Sig Series Guns and have no relationship to 2nd Gens.
« Last Edit: Wed,PM,16,01 by brushhippie »
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Re: How to ID a second generation Colt
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Re: How to ID a second generation Colt
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That would be great! thank you Sir!
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Re: How to ID a second generation Colt
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Thanks for posting the correct way to identify a 2nd Gen Brushie
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Re: How to ID a second generation Colt
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Thank you Sir! We are all at the mercy of the folks that put this stuff up, its easy enough to SAY its fact.......Im glad we've got you here to help us keep it straight!
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